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One of our greatest singer/songwriters, Matthew Sweet, suffered a stroke recently. He’s facing some tough times ahead, but this isn’t the first challenge he’s faced. Things were not going Matthew Sweet’s way in 1990; his first two albums flopped, and his marriage fell apart. His 3^rd album was make-or-break, do-or-die. If this one failed, he may never get to do another record. So he & his producer went back to basics, recording a batch of guitar-oriented songs that sound both retro and refreshingly new. The album that became known as Girlfriend saved his career and has become a true classic. On this episode, we explore the album’s brilliant opener, “Divine Intervention”. Let’s hope he rebounds as well this time.

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How are you? How have you been? Good to have you back with us on the “I’m In Love With That Song” podcast. I’m Brad Page, coming to you on the Pantheon network of podcasts, with another exploration of one of my favorite songs. We keep the music theory and technical jargon to a minimum here, so whether you’re a musician, an avid listener, or just a fan of the song, everybody’s welcome here.

On this edition of the podcast, we’re delving into a song from one of the greatest albums of the 1990’s, and it still sounds as fresh today as the day it was recorded. It’s an indispensable part of my record collection. For many people, the album “Girlfriend” is Matthew Sweet’s masterpiece. Join me as we explore the song that opens this classic album, “Divine Intervention”.

Matthew Sweet was born in 1964 in Nebraska. He played in bands and was writing songs as a teenager, and when he graduated high school, he moved to Athens, Georgia for college, which also happened to be ground zero for the alternative rock scene of REM, the B-52’s, Pylon, all of those great bands. He hooked up with some local bands, and even did some gigs with Michael Stipe from REM. He spent some time playing bass for Lloyd Cole, too. He formed another duo with drummer David Pierc,e and under the name the Buzz of Delight, they released one EP which included a Christmas song that still pops up every now and then.

Columbia Records was impressed and signed him to a solo deal, and he released his first album, “Inside”. The album is very ‘80’s, heavy on the synthesizer, and suffers for the fact that it was worked on by ten different producers. Here’s a song from that album. It’s called “By Herself”.

The record did not sell, and Columbia dropped him. Three years later, he surfaced on A& M Records with a new contract and a new album, “Earth”. This album was a little more cohesive and featured more guitar, including key contributions from Robert Quine and Richard Lloyd. Here’s a song from Earth called “Wind And The Sun”.

Unfortunately, this album wasn’t any more successful than his first, and A&M dropped him too. Sweet and his wife had married young; he was 19 when they got married, but now the pressure and strain had taken its toll, and she was gone. They divorced in 1989. Having burned through two record labels and one marriage is enough to make anyone reassess their life. He regrouped, and with producer Fred Maher, they started to work on another album. And this time they stripped things back. Inspired by The Beatles’ “White Album” and Fleetwood Mac’s “Tusk”, they wanted an album that felt raw, organic, direct… not necessarily “live”, they were not trying to capture a “live in the studio” band; there are plenty of overdubs, but they were trying to catch complete performances on tape. Most overdubs were performed beginning-to-end without a lot of punch-ins, with one exception: Robert Quine’s guitar solos. Quine was so unpredictable, he never played the same thing twice. So his solos were edited together from multiple takes. But most of the performances on the new album were complete takes, start to finish. Not always perfect, but capturing the feel of a song played by real human beings.

There are two other approaches to this album that contribute to its distinctive and pretty magical sound. One is the heavy use of compression. Pretty much every instrument and vocal was subject to a significant amount of compression. Compression is electronically processing the sound to level it out, increasing the quiet sections while lowering the louder parts. This can be done subtly so that you don’t really notice it, but it results in an even, consistent sound. But you can crank up the compression, producing that distinctive sound that you hear all over this record.

The other thing that makes this album sound the way it does is reverb, or I should say, the complete lack of it. There is no reverb or echo on this album at all. Vocals, drums, instruments, none of it has any reverb at all. At a time when, in the ‘80’s and early ‘90’s, reverb was used on everything to create a big sound, especially on drums, those ridiculously huge drum sounds. This album goes in completely the other direction, avoiding the use of reverb at all. And it’s all the better for it.

“Divine Intervention” is the song that opens the album. It was written by Matthew Sweet, and before we get to the album version, let’s have a taste of the demo. This is Matthew on guitar, vocals & six string bass, and Ivan Julian on lead guitar.

Once they brought it into the studio, they gave it the full band treatment. Basic tracks were laid down with Matthew on electric guitar and Rick Menck on drums. Rick was an indie rock veteran and was playing drums for Velvet Crush. Once the drums and rhythm guitar were done, Matthew Sweet would overdub a bass guitar part vocals and lead guitar, in this case by Richard Lloyd, would come after that. The song opens with a series of short, contrasting sounds. Here’s what we’re hearing there. First, there’s a snippet of the vocals from the chorus played backwards in the right channel. That is immediately followed by a guitar chord that dissolves into feedback in the left channel. This always reminds me of the beginning of “I Feel Fine” by The Beatles.

Next you can hear Rick Menck count off the song. But that’s interrupted by a stray guitar note in the center channel. I’m guessing this is an artifact from Richard Lloyd’s overdubbed guitar. And then Matthew Sweet’s guitar in the left channel kicks off the song proper. There’s also kind of a funny little guitar sting in there from Richard Lloyd.

Let’s go back to the top and hear that whole intro all the way through. You can hear what sounds like some backwards notes in the right channel.

Let’s back it up a bit and play it through the rest of the intro. The other thing you’ve probably noticed by now is the fairly extreme panning with Sweet’s guitar all the way to the left and the drums panned hard right. This was inspired by those old Beatles records. Let’s play the first verse and listen for the stereo placement of all the instruments and the vocals.

I really like the groove laid down by the bass and drums. Simple, not busy at all. Just very straightforward. Supporting the guitars and vocals and giving them plenty of room to work with.

Let’s listen to the second verse. I always thought it was interesting that, on this album that was born out of commercial failure and the collapse of his marriage, and all the questions and soul searching that would arise out of those feelings, that he would open the album with a song about maybe the biggest question of all: is there a God? And does he really care? This song doesn’t offer any answers. How could it? But it is an honest exploration of his doubts.

Notice how on that chorus that the lead and the backing vocals intentionally don’t sync up.

Next up is a guitar solo from Richard Lloyd. We’ve talked about Richard Lloyd on this podcast a couple of times before. He was a member of the band Television, which we explored in episode #147, and we covered a song from one of Richard’s solo albums way back on episode #39. I’ve always liked Richard as a player. He can be very creative. He can play with a lot of fury and fire, and he’s not above playing like a real old-fashioned guitar hero when the moment calls for it. This solo has a little bit of all of that in it. Theres a real manic energy to this one. Just for fun, lets listen to the solo on its own and then well go back and hear it in context.

All right, now let’s go back and hear that in the final mix. First, you’ll hear Matthew sweet say the word “All right”, twice. I’m guessing one of these is on the lead vocal track and the other one is on the backing vocal track. That is a cool little bit there where for a couple of seconds they flip the tape around and play it backwards. Creative tricks like these are a great way to throw in something unexpected that shocks the listener out of complacency, breaks the predictability, and helps keep the listener engaged.

Matthew Sweet sings all of the vocals on this album, all the lead and the backing vocals. It was an intentional decision to use only Matthew’s voice on the album. That creates a sense, almost subconsciously, of the album being the singular feelings and expressions of one man. Plus, Sweet is just a great singer and is able to blend his voice together in beautiful swaths of harmony.

There’s a simple but nice little drum fill there by Rick Menck, and that brings us towards the end of the song with a bit here that I’m sure is another nod to The Beatles.

Let’s listen to just a little bit of those vocals there because it’s so great.

You might think they’re going to end it right there, but it’s just a short pause. Then there’s a drum fill and Matthew laughs. And then Richard Lloyd takes flight again. Let’s hear it. There is a simple piano part in the background played by Matthew Sweet. It’s cropped up throughout the song. You can hear it if you listen closely, here in the right channel.

The song, begins to fade out. And again, you might think this is where it all ends, but it’s a false ending. It’s going to fade back up for an encore.

They weren’t trying to be tricky here. They actually thought Richard Lloyd was on such a roll, they wanted to give us another minute or so of his brilliant guitar work.

“Divine Intervention” – Matthew Sweet

The album was released in 1991 by Zoo Entertainment, at the time, a new label formed by the former president of Island Records.

The album cover is almost as famous as the album itself. It features a photo of the actress Tuesday Weld taken sometime in the late 1950’s when she was just 14 years old. Sweet originally wanted to call the album “Nothing Lasts”, but Tuesday Weld didn’t want to be associated with that title, so they changed the name of the album to “Girlfriend”.

The record label marketed the album as if it were Matthew Sweet’s first record, which was probably smart, because this was really a fresh new start for Sweet. But the strategy worked so well that most people don’t even know or forgot that he had two previous albums before this one.

The album wasn’t a smash hit out of the gate, but it certainly wasn’t a flop either. It sold steadily and eventually went platinum. It’s Matthew Sweet’s most commercially successful album, and it’s a critics’ favorite too. It’s hard to find a bad review of this album. In my opinion, it’s a damn near perfect record.

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A while back, we did an episode celebrating the Nuggets album, that quintessential collection of 1960’s psychedelic garage rock. But psychedelia was an international phenomenon, and on this episode, we’re travelling across the pond to feature the long-lost psychedelic bands from the UK. All of these selections are available on the excellent compilation albums in the Rubble series—if you like what you hear here, check those out.

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Welcome back to the “I’m In Love With That Song” podcast. I’m Brad Page, your host here on the Pantheon Podcast Network, where each episode we explore some of my favorite songs. About two years ago, I did a special edition of the podcast to celebrate the anniversary of the “Nuggets” album. One of the most important compilation albums ever released, “Nuggets” celebrated the forgotten bands from the 60’s psychedelic garage rock era. It inspired many other collections of long lost sounds from that era, when it seemed there was a teenage band on every street and all things seemed possible. There was so much music being made that “Nuggets” couldn’t possibly cover it all, even over the course of multiple volumes.

One of the things about “Nuggets” is that it was very US-centric. But of course, there was psychedelic music being made in garages, basements and living rooms around the world, especially in the UK. And one of the companion series to “Nuggets” were the “Rubble” albums, collecting tons of obscure 60’s bands from the UK and Europe. Starting in 1984, there would ultimately be 20 “Rubble” albums issued. On this episode, we’ll be sampling a whole bunch of songs from the first ten volumes of “Rubble” So strap yourself in, because we’re setting the wayback machine to 1960s England.

Whether you call it psychedelic rock, garage rock, or one of the more esoteric names like pop, Psych or Freakbeat, we’re talking about bands that formed in the wake of the Big Bang that was The Beatles, when millions of teenagers and young adults went out and bought guitars and drums and formed bands of their own. Some of these bands were more professional than others, but the one thing they all have in common is that none of them had any long-term success. Although, as we’ll see, occasionally a band member would go on to find success with another group. On this episode, we’re looking at songs recorded from 1965 to around 1968, primarily from bands from the U. K. although there may be a couple from Europe in here. All of these bands are included on the “Rubble” series of compilation albums.

Let’s kick things off with a band called Fire. Fire were a three-piece band from Hounslow, West London. They were originally called Friday’s Child and recorded a couple of demos which got them some attention from Apple, The Beatles’ record label. Someone suggested they change their name to Fire, and they recorded their first single for Decca Records in March 1968. When it came time to record their second single, the record label forced them to record a song by an outside songwriter and the band didn’t even play on the single. They were not happy about any of that. And that pretty much ended their relationship with Apple and Decca. They would record one album for Pye Records in 1970, but that was it for Fire. We’re going to go back to their first single from 1968– this song they wrote and played themselves. It’s called “My Father’s Name Is Dad”, and despite the wacky title, this song actually has a great Beatle-ish guitar riff and a pretty catchy chorus.

That was Fire with “My Father’s Name Is Dad”.

Here’s a song by The Clique or The Clique depending on where you’re from. I guess The Clique were from north London. I don’t know much about this band, but this was their second single from September 1965, produced by the legendary British producer Larry Page, who produced The Kinks and The Troggs classic “Wild Thing”. This is another song with an awkward title– This one’s called “We Didn’t Kiss, Didn’t Love, But Now We Do”. Great guitar sound, though.

The Clique – “We Didn’t Kiss, Didn’t Love, But Now We Do”.

This next song is one of the most interesting stories of the British psychedelic scene in the 1960s. Follow me on this one, because it’s a bit of a long story, but worth the payoff. Zoot Money and The Big Roll Band were formed in the early 60’s featuring vocalist and keyboard player Zoot Money. They primarily played soul and R&B tunes. But when the scene began to change and the psychedelic sound was all the rage, Zoot changed the name of the band to Dantalian’s Chariot in 1967 and essentially rebranded them as an acid-tinged psychedelic rock band. They played shows with Pink Floyd and the Crazy World of Arthur Brown, performing in white robes with one of the best psychedelic light shows around. In September 1967, they released their one and only single, a psychedelic pop masterpiece called “Madman Running Through The Fields”. They went into the studio to record an album, but most of it was rejected by the record label. And when it was eventually retooled and released, it came out as a Zoot money and the Big Roll Band album– Dantalian’s Chariot was no more, having lasted only a year. For decades, it was thought that those original Dantalian’s Chariot recordings were lost. But they were eventually rediscovered and released on an album called “Chariot’s Rising” in 1996, almost 30 years after they were originally recorded. Now, if the name Zoot Money sounds at all vaguely familiar to you, it may be because you’ve heard of their guitar player. Andy Summers played guitar in Zoot Money’s band, and he followed him into Dantalian’s Chariot, co- writing many of their songs. Andy Summers would go on to play in a little band called The Police. But for now, let’s go back to 1967, when Andy Summers was wearing white robes and writing psychedelic songs like this one. This is the legendary track “Madman Running Through The Fields”

Dantalian’s Chariot “Madman Running Through The Fields”.

Next up is a band called Jason Crest. There’s nobody named Jason Crest in Jason Crest, just five guys from Kent who were originally called the Good Time Brigade and then the Good Time Losers. Before settling on Jason Crest as their name, they released five singles between 1967 and 1969. Supposedly they put on a killer live show, but it didn’t translate into record sales. Their final single was a song called “Black Mass”. Though it’s more goofy than it is scary, the record company held this one back out of concern, though it was still released before Black Sabbath recorded their first album. Here’s “Black Mass” by Jason Crest.

“Black Mass” by Jason Crest.

Everybody knows “Magic Bus” by The Who, but did you know that they were not the first ones to release it? Pete Townsend wrote the song, but gave it to a band called The Pudding, who released it in April 1967. The Who didn’t release it until July 1968. Here’s the version by The Pudding.

“Magic Bus” by The Pudding.

Here’s a song by a band called Turquoise. They were from Muswell Hill, a, suburb of London. Muswell Hill was also home to The Kinks. And you can definitely hear, uh, a Kinks influence on this song: “Tales Of Flossy Fillet”, one of only two singles released by Turquoise.

“Tales Of Flossy Fillet” by Turquoise.

If I say the name Dream Police to you, you’re going to think of the song or the album by Cheap Trick, right? But ten years before Cheap Trick released that song, there was a band from Scotland called the Dream Police. Formed in 1967, they released three singles before disbanding. Guitarist and singer Hamish Stewart would go on to form the Average White Band and spend a chunk of the 90’s in Paul McCartney’s band. Here’s a song by the Dream Police called “Living Is Easy”.

Dream Police with “Living Is Easy”.

One thing you don’t see too often with these psychedelic bands, neither here or on the “Nuggets” albums unfortunately, are groups fronted by women. Not too many female voices to be heard. But here’s one. Sharon Tandy was originally from South Africa, moving to the UK in 1964. She actually recorded some tracks at Stax Studios in Memphis and was the opening act on the legendary Stax Volt tour of Europe in 1967. She cut two singles with the band Floor de Lis. Here’s one of those tracks a nice riffy rocker called “Hold On”.

Sharon Tandy and Fleur de Lis with “Hold On”.

This next group was originally called the Silvertone Set. Playing mostly soul and R & B influenced songs, they changed their name to “The Elastic Band” and released one album and a couple of singles, none of which were hits. Their guitar player, Andy Scott, would later become a member of the quintessential glam band, Sweet. Here’s a song he co wrote for The Elastic Band called “Eight And A Half Hours Of Paradise”.

“Eight And A Half Hours Of Paradise” by The Elastic Band

The Dakotas were from Manchester, England. They first came to fame as the backing band for Billy J. Kramer in 1964. Mick Green joined them as their guitarist. He’d made a name for himself with Johnny Kidd and the Pirates. The Dakotas released a few singles on their own. This is a particularly tasty b-side featuring a great guitar riff from Mick Green. It’s called “The Spider & The Fly”.

“The Spider & The Fly” by The Dakotas.

For the next couple of tracks, we’re going to cheat a little bit and go outside of the UK. We’re going to take a side trip to the Netherlands and listen to a song by a band called Group 1850. This track is one of the loopiest psychedelic tracks I’ve ever heard. Manic drumming, spoken word chanting, trippy guitar work and a flute. Folks, this one’s got it all. It’s called “Mother No Head”.

“Mother No Head” by Group 1850.

Here’s another Dutch band, Dragonfly. These guys never had a hit outside of their home country, but they did manage to release two singles. Dragonfly was wearing face makeup years before Kiss came up with it. You can find some clips on YouTube if you look for them. Here’s a song by Dragonfly.

“Celestial Empire” by Dragonfly

Back in the British Isles, The Flies were making a stir in London. Apparently, they dumped 800 bags of flour on their audience at one show. Here are the flies covering The Monkees. They slow “I’m Not Your Stepping Stone” down and bring out the nasty edge in this classic song.

The Flies with their version of “I’m Not Your Stepping Stone”

Birmingham was the birthplace of a bunch of great British bands, enough that they coined their own term for the Birmingham sound: Brumbeat. The Knight Riders were purveyors of the Brumbeat sound before changing their name to The Idle Race. They’re mostly remembered for launching the career of first Roy Wood, then Jeff Lynne. Both would get together in The Move and eventually form the Electric Light Orchestra. Here’s an Idle Race song called “Knocking Nails Into My House” that shows that Jeff Lynne had something going on right from the start.

The Idle Race “Knocking Nails Into My House”

All the bands we’ve been talking about here slipped into obscurity pretty quickly, never to be heard again. But let’s hear from one band that did make an impact. Though they never had big hits in the US, they were very influential in the UK. The Pretty Things formed in 1963. Initially they played bluesy R & B influenced stuff like the Yardbirds or the Rolling Stones, but by the time they signed with EMI in 1967, they were a full-on on psychedelic band. They released a couple of singles, including “Talking About The Good Times”, one of the all-time time greatest psychedelic tracks, and then released the album “SF Sorrow”, which is acknowledged as being the very first rock opera, beating The Who’s “Tommy” by over a year. They released a dozen albums over their career and are still referenced today as an influence. So let’s go back to February 1968 and listen to “Talking About The Good Times”.

“Talking About The Good Times” by The Pretty Things

Let’s hear one more. The Onyx came from Cornwall, originally named Dick and The Hayseeds, but changed their name to The Onyx around 1966 and signed to Pye Records. They were known for doing great cover versions, but released a handful of self-penned penned singles, including “You Got To Be With Me” their first single in 1968, which is super catchy and features a very McCartney-esque bass part.

The Onyx “You Gotta Be With Me”

Well, I hope you enjoyed this trip through the sounds of psychedelia from 1960’s UK. As I said, all of these tracks can be found on the first ten volumes in the “Rubble” series. There is a box set that contains all 10 CDs. If you really dug this episode, it might be worth seeking out that collection. I recommend it.

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Thanks for taking the time to listen to this episode. I’m going to leave you with one more clip. You may remember the band Golden Earring for their hits “Radar Love” and “Twilight Zone”, but these guys have been together since 1961. They’re another Dutch band, and in 1966, they recorded a commercial for Coca Cola. It was released on a single that was apparently only available at one Dutch grocery store. The band didn’t particularly like doing it, but they needed the money to buy a new van. Such are the artistic compromises you make in the music business. So I’ll leave you with “Things Go Better With Coke” from 1966 by Golden Earring.

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Matthew Sweet – “Divine Intervention”

Sifting Through Rubble: 1960’s Psychedelia from the UK